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02 August 2008 @ 11:38 pm
Breaking Dawn, discussion  
After 13 hours and 24 minutes of voracious reading, I have AT LAST finished reading Breaking Dawn... and holy cow, what a day.

So, since this book is rather different from other Sparticus Ni sessions, I'm providing a number possible topics of discussion under the cut. Answer as many as you want, but feel free to deviate from them to go off on your own raves, rants, comments, concerns, and general squee-ing over Edward's magnificence.

1. Before you started to read Breaking Dawn, how did you think the series was going to end? Did you think Bella would become a vampire?

2. What did you originally make of Bella's reoccuring nightmares that featured an ominous child and the advancing threat of the Voltouri? Did you think it held any particular significance? What about when Bella's feelings toward the dream-child changed from horror to a desire to protect?

3. What was your first reaction when Bella realized she might be pregnant with Edward's child? Did you possibly realize it before she did? What did you make of Edward's petrified reaction?

4. Point of view shift?! How did you like hearing the story told from Jacob's perspective? Was it strange to you after listening to Bella's side of the story consistently for three books? Did you like this choice?

5. Bella's pregnancy felt like something out of a horror movie. How did you react to seeing our heroine so incapacitated and so stubbornly resolved to keeping her baby? How did you feel about Rosalie's protectiveness of the unborn baby and of Bella (...by association)? What did you think of Edward's desperate plea to Jacob-- was he overreacting?

6. Looking back, how clearly did Meyer set up Jacob's imprint on Renesmee? Did you think Jacob and Renesemee were a good match? Considering that it effectively solved all of the Cullen's problems with the werewolves, was it perhaps too good of a match?

7. What was your reaction to Bella's vampiric transformation? Was it what you expected? Were you surprised when Bella did not behave like a regular newborn vampire, but behaved shockingly like an "improved" version of herself? Did you feel she was improved?

8. How did you feel Edward and Bella fit into their roles as parents? Did you find the transition from "teenage lovers" to "dedicated parents" a hard mental switch to make, or did it seem natural considering the growth of their relationship? Were they believeable as parental figures?

9. Before starting the book, did you have a guess as to what Bella's "superhero" vampire power would be? What did you make of her sheilding powers? And what did you think about Renesmee's thought projection "superpowers"?

10. How did you take Alice's apparent disappearance during the Cullen's time of need? Were you surprised that she and Jasper cut-and-run? Did you think she had something more up her sleeve?

11. Breaking Dawn introduced a whole array of new vampires that Jacob felt he needed an index just to keep them all straight (lucky him, one was provided on page 756)!! Did you like the inclusion of these new vampire friends? Who was your favorite new vampire and whose "superpower" impressed you the most?

12. The final confrontation with the Voltouri. Was it everything you imagined? Were you hoping for something more climactic?

13. And finally, the ending. Were you pleased by the ending, where Edward, Bella, and Renesmee are united happily ever after? Was it a satisfactory finale to the Twilight Saga as a whole? Was there anything lacking that you might have added to make the ending more fulfilling?

14. Any other thoughts on the book as a whole? Any particular Edward (okay, fine, OR Jacob...) moments/quotes that were particularly swoon-worthy?
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Kaileymajoractress3 on August 5th, 2008 07:03 am (UTC)
7) The transformation was generally what I expected. The burning, the pain, all that stuff. I was a little surprised she was so un-newbornish, but I guess that was the only way she could be to keep the story moving. I never figured out whether her ability to stop her want for blood was from her shield power or cause she had so much knowledge of what she was getting into. I personally think it was the latter, but maybe that's just my hope that not all vampires start out as monsters.

8) Although I had never expected them to become parents, in the end, it wasn't that hard to see the transition. For me, they had never been teenage lovers. They'd always had something much stronger than that. I've always had a theory that vampires sort of imprinted just like werewolves. There never was a vampire "break up" mentioned; it always seemed like a pretty permanent deal. You found your person, you knew they were the one, and that was that (wish it was that simple in real life). For Edward, it just happened to be a human girl. They were far too intense for just teen infatuation, they'd been through too much together and shared too many secrets. It was hard to see them as parents since they were so young and had such a physical relationship. The fact that they were parents and still having wild passionate sex made me think of my parents...ok, not even gonna go there. But, yah, that made it difficult. But I could accept it easily enough.

9) I had no idea what Bella's superpower would be. I knew it would be something pretty awesome, but I had no idea what. The shield power was kind of cool, though I would have liked her to have a more offensive power. Releasing it in the field though was pretty awesome. And I thought Renesmee's power was actually really cute. I wish that all babies had that power. Then you would know exactly what they want all the time. Life would be so much easier!

10) I was so upset when Alice left. I really thought she had gone cause she was scared. The J. Jents address just seemed to add to my confirmation she was never coming back. When I thought about the Aro point of view, I was able to accept her leaving. But I had no idea what she was up too.

11) I did like getting to see all the new vampires, although it was hard at times to keep it all straight. My favorite was definitely the Amazon one who could put pictures in your head. Such a cool idea. I really didn't like Kate, though. She felt like a jerk to me. Too much like Jane.

12) While I had expected some fighting, I was really happy there was none. I was really convinced people were going to die. Possibly even Edward and Bella. It seemed to be totally leaning that way. I was on edge of me seat the whole time (or, well, I was sitting on the floor, so I guess I wasn't really on the edge of anything). When Alice came back I definitely wanted to do a happy flip. A little anti climactic at the end, I guess, but I was just so relieved no one died, I couldn't care.

13) What can I say? I love happy ever after. No one died, everything went back to generally normal. As normal as a vampire world gets. Renesmee is going to live, Edward and Bella will be together forever. It's all I could ask for. It's why I read books. To live the happy ending I know will never happen in real life. To escape the depressing reality for a good feeling fantasy. It wasn't an amazing ending. It definitely doesn't deserve an award. Something probably could have been done better, though I can't think up anything fantastic. But, it left me feeling like maybe there was a happy ending out there for everyone. That's how I like to feel, even if it's crazy to think.

14) I enjoyed the book as a whole. It's definitely not my favorite of the series by far, but it was a fun story to follow, and I definitely strengthened my love for Edward, as I always do. Could stuff have been better? Probably. But, I've got nothing better to think up. Guess that's why I'm not a writer, haha.
ringbearer_89ringbearer_89 on August 6th, 2008 10:35 pm (UTC)
Maybe it's just us old cynical ladies that (would hate be to strong a word?...) extremely disliked Breaking Dawn, because my cousin (she's 16) likes it...
Kaileymajoractress3 on August 7th, 2008 05:49 am (UTC)
haha, maybe this is possible. But maybe your not cynical old ladies. You've probably just had more experience with better books :)
I'm too persuadable anyways.
Kirstenfreak4theater on August 9th, 2008 05:50 pm (UTC)
I'm really glad that you enjoyed the book, Kails, and I'm pleased that it didn't disappoint EVERYone. And thank you for providing a different point of view to your post-- we like to vary our discussions here at Sparticus Ni.

I, too, was glad that Bella and Edward lived to see another day and will live happily forever after, even though it seemed they got their ending a little too easily.
I never thought about J. Jents being a confirmation of Alice's departure! I was so preoccupied with the wild-goose-chase feel to it that I didn't think about it's deeper implications. Still, Alice returned in the end, so I guess it was a moot point, but I can see why Bella would find the meeting so meaningful.