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24 August 2008 @ 09:56 pm
Dorian Gray, discussion 2: ch. 11 - 14  
Ack! Sorry fellow Spartans! I know I've been dropping the ball a bit lately, but moving has been way more of a roller coaster than I ever expected! But never fear, I'm finally here even though I'm later than expected. I have our next sections questions so I hope you're ready for them!

1. There was a rather long chapter about Dorian's interests over the years in detail. As far as can be seen so far it was nothing that moved the plot. What did you think of it? Was it interesting? A waste of trees? Important? or just there?

2. So by now Dorian is about 39, 40-ish. How do you think his non-aging works? Does he look exactly the same or do you think the picture just allows him to age really really well?

3. Basil appears at the door, he's here to tell Dorian to change his ways. What do you think of Basil's character at this point in the book? Do you think his love for Dorian has changed any over the years or is it still the same type of devotion?

4. Dorian offs Basil, did you see it coming? What did you think about the fact that killing him was such an easy thing to do and the fact that Dorian hardly blinked while doing it?

5. What do you think will happen with Alan, do you think he'll tell? What kind of dirt do you suppose Dorian's got on him?
 
 
 
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kylahbirdkylahbird on August 25th, 2008 05:33 am (UTC)
1. I kind of have mixed feeling about that chapter. While I didn't think it had much to do with the plot I can't say that it wasn't completely un-enjoyable. I guess I just felt like it might have done a little better to have been shortened a bit because it was longer than a normal chapter and I felt like it didn't have all that much to do with the actual story.

2. I'm kind of unclear about how time passes for Dorian's body though I'm inclined to think that the portrait absorbs all the ugly and that he is still allowed to age. Maybe he is just a really hot middle aged man. I have the feeling that if Dorian stayed looking 20 for the rest of his life, that would be what people are talking about maybe even more than his bad behavior. I also think that he would eventually be charged with witchcraft or something.

3. Basil has been a very loyal friend and up to this point I think his devotion to Dorian has been pretty consistent and the type of it has been rather unchanged. That is up until this point. To me it looks like their relationship was on the cusp and Basil was coming to see if this was still HIS Dorian and if he was ready to see him for what he really was, but then Dorian whacked him.

4. Dorian really kind of is a monster now but I guess we already knew that, we already watched him kill another person who loved him though this time he took an active hand.

5. I have a feeling that this favor might come back to bite Mr. Gray, that maybe Alan's knowing about his secret might be the catalyst for the climax or something. But then again Dorian has something on him too... I do wonder what all these scandals are that Dorian was involved with that ruined the reputations of all these people. I think it would be interesting to know what they did.
Kirstenfreak4theater on August 25th, 2008 04:30 pm (UTC)
1. I think that this longer chapter probably had something to do with signifying time passing. I wasn't a big fan of it, though, and found my eyes skimming the page multiple times. Still, Wilde's descriptions are very good.

2. I think that the picture's purpose is to keep Dorian both young and youthful forever-- so I think he still looks the way he did at age 20, moments before his first corruption. Yes, I'm sure this looks strange to the passerby... but then again, maybe they don't suspect any fishy business and just think the boy is blessed with good looks.

3. I agree with Kylah and Basil is hoping to find Dorian to have him convice Basil that Dorian remains the same, unchanged, untarnished man he was before-- and if he is, Basil would go on worshipping him. I think that the news of Dorian's doings has made Basil take a nervous step back in his devotion, proving him to be a smart guy. It's too bad that his curiosity was met with such tragedy.

4. I did not see that coming at all! I was very shocked at Dorian's coldness, though I probably shouldn't have been. It seems that Dorian is right-- that it was and is far "too late" for Basil to save him.

5. I agree that Alan knowing about Basil will probably be the catalyst for the finale. Alan will have to weigh the consequences with the gain (in his mind) between having his own scandal exposed and possibly sentencing Dorian to death. Maybe that would be a good trade in his mind. I have no idea what dirt Dorian has on him, but clearly it's something that remains relevant today, or else Alan wouldn't be so afraid of it.